Irish language row in Stormont

Dominic Bradley MLA

If you listen to the business of the Welsh Assembly you will often hear their native language in full flow. In Stormont it is most often confined to “Go raibh míle maith agat, a Comhairle” or “Go raibh míle maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle” Thank you, Speaker or Deputy Speaker. Earlier today Dominic Bradley the SDLP MLA for Newry and Armagh tried to say a little more than this stock phrase.

He got as far as saying:

“Go raibh míle maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis as an ráiteas a thug sé anseo inniu. Ba mhaith liom ceist a chur air faoi na moltaí atá sa tuarascáil a d’ullmhaigh an cumann ar mhalartuithe”

before he was interrupted mid phrase due to the nature of the Irish language by the deputy speaker Roy Beggs asked “How long are you going to take to ask this question?”

He continued:

“-oideachais Thuaidh agus Theas, agus cén uair a chuirfear na moltaí sin i gcrích”

In other words he’d got as far as saying.

Thank you, Deputy Speaker. I thank him for his statement here today. I want to ask him about the proposals in the report prepared by the association of North and South educational exchanges, and when the recommendations will be completed

Before he was asked to sit down by the UUPs Mr Beggs. He was later told by the speaker William Hay (coincidentally a DUP elected MLA) that he would not be allowed to speak in the chamber for some time. A similar decision though with an actual time scale was made to TUV MLA Jim Allister last week (the period being one week).

Section 78 of the Assembly’s Standing Orders states:

“Members may speak in the language of their choice.”

This is what Mr Bradley was in the process of doing when he was interrupted, it appears that he was near the end of his question. Common courtesy is that Irish speakers will translate what they have said into the common language of the chamber after speaking in Gaeilge.

So it appears that either the Deputy Speaker suspended standing orders or he actually broke them by interjecting into the question that was being asked and appears to have been brief and almost drawing to a conclusion when he interrupted Mr Bradley. The speaker or deputy does have sole access to simultaneous translation in the chamber and therefore should have known that a question was being formed. While Mr Bradley is not totally faultless in the way that he dealt with the subsequent exchange he was none the less cut off somewhat prematurely by the chair.

So while the chair may have been aware what was being framed and that is was about the matter being debated did he leave sufficient time for the member to finish he question? Did he take it upon himself to hurry up the use of Irish in contravention to standing orders section 78? The speaker has taken action against Mr Bradley for his part in the contretemps but what sanctions will the speaker take against his deputy for his impatience?

Notes The full transcript of the exchange from Hansard

Mr D Bradley: Go raibh míle maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis as an ráiteas a thug sé anseo inniu. Ba mhaith liom ceist a chur air faoi na moltaí atá sa tuarascáil a d’ullmhaigh an cumann ar mhalartuithe [Interruption.]

Mr McNarry: How long are you going to take to ask this question?

Mr D Bradley: –oideachais Thuaidh agus Theas, agus cén uair a chuirfear na moltaí sin i gcrích—

Mr Deputy Speaker: Will the Member ask his question and translate please?

Mr D Bradley: Gabh mo leithscéal.

Mr Deputy Speaker: Will the Member ask his question and translate please?

Mr D Bradley: Mr Deputy Speaker, I was in the process of asking a question when you interrupted me. I shall now translate my question, as required by the rules of the House.

Mr Deputy Speaker: Will the Member please sit down?

Mr D Bradley: No, I refuse to sit down.

Mr Deputy Speaker: Will the Member please sit down?

Mr D Bradley: Ní shuífidh mé síos.

Mr Deputy Speaker: I am chairing this event today. Will the Member please sit down?

Mr D Bradley: Is cuma liom.

Mr Deputy Speaker: Will the Member please sit down? I wish to speak.

Mr D Bradley: Bhí mé ag cur ceiste nuair a chuir tú isteach orm toisc gur chuir an fear sin isteach.

Mr Deputy Speaker: Is the Member challenging the Chair?

Mr D Bradley: The Member is challenging the Chair.

Mr Deputy Speaker: Will the Member please sit down?

Mr D Bradley: Yes.

Mr Deputy Speaker: I remind everyone that the Chair is chairing a meeting of the Assembly. If the Speaker or a Deputy Speaker asks someone to sit down, I ask that people respect that. I gave the Member a degree of time to ask his question, but I did not hear that question. I then asked for a question and for a translation. I ask the Member to ask his question and to ensure that there is order in the House. I ask that everyone please respects the Speaker.

Mr D Bradley: Go raibh míle maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Thank you for that ruling, Mr Deputy Speaker. I am pleased that you are in authority here rather than Mr McNarry.

Will the Minister state what action is being taken to implement the proposals prepared by the North/South Exchange Consortium on educational exchanges? When can we expect to see some movement on that report?

Political donations: NIO not promoting a transparent society

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The decision of Hugo Swire MP to extend the legislation which prevents the public from finding out about donations to political parties in Northern Ireland is shameful. This is not reasonable.

As the Northern Ireland Liberal Democrats said in our submission to the Northern Ireland Office on this subject late last year,

1. A fair, free and open society The Liberal Democrats exist to build and safeguard a fair, free and open society, in which we seek to balance the fundamental values of liberty, equality, and community and in which no one shall be enslaved, by poverty, ignorance or conformity.

2. Openness and transparency

The Northern Ireland Liberal Democrats fully support the openness and transparency that would be brought about by the full implementation of the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000 in Northern Ireland.

3. Recommendation

Therefore, we support the implementation of Option 12, id est Allow the prescribed period to expire and make the full register of donations available to the public.

Our position has not changed. I do not understand what parties – if not individuals – have got to hide. There ought to be public outcry about this. However, some people may be prepared to continue with the status quo: perhaps they have too much invested in getting politicians to do as they want.

Ireland’s Greatest – a worthy winner

John Hume - now 'Ireland's Greatest' as chosen by RTÉ viewers

Last night an Raidío Teilifís Éireann (RTÉ) the announcement of the viewers poll to find Ireland’s Greatest went to a very worthy recipient, John Hume the Nobel Peace laureate who is formerly MP, MEP and leader of the SDLP.

At a time when the buzz across Ireland is to look for a shared future living in peace between all communities the man whose involvement stems from the civil rights movement in the 60s to the Belfast Agreement and is still felt today is a beacon of where we can be. Hume is a man who spent all of his public life working to bring people together. As someone who started out merely looking out for the local residents of Derry as part of the Derry Citizen’s Action Committee and a founder member of the Derry Credit Union his rise to international acclaim shows how local campaign can shape a life and change the world.

John Hume of course set up the SDLP but it was his work in secret talks with Sinn Féin that got the first cease-fire in the troubles declared in Northern Ireland, then got them around the table for talks about a shared future, which culminated with the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement.

He’s done a lot to lead to a united, shared future for those of us in Northern Ireland and indeed Ireland as a whole. Up against Michael Collins, Mary Robinson, James Connolly and Bono he was a worthy winner. Here is what the man himself said about the accolade:

‘I am very proud that people across Ireland took the time to vote for me and I appreciate it greatly.

‘This award obviously recognises the contribution of my wife and family over many years as well as others who worked with me.’

‘I can only thank people in Derry and across the country for taking the time to vote for me.’

Adding that the tag of Ireland’s Greatest could have been given to all men and women who had campaigned for peace throughout the island.